Interview with black death metal band from Finland - PROSCRIPTION.
Answered ChristButcher (Guitars, Vocals), thank you!
Recenze/review - PROSCRIPTION - Desolate Divine (2025):
Ave PROSCRIPTION! Greetings to the dark underworld. I first listened to your new album, Desolate Divine, on my way to work. I walk past an old cemetery and then an abandoned factory. At times, I felt like I was seeing ghosts! The album is really great. You've returned after five years and seem even stronger than before. How did the new album come about and why was there such a long gap between albums?
The time gap? It wasn't intentional! HAHAHA, I guess it takes the time that it takes. I didn't even notice until a few album reviews made a huge deal about it. I didn't realize taking my time would cost rating points for those reviews, but now I know, but still couldn't care less. The first album had so much positive acceptance, and I felt that pressure of making lightning strike twice somewhere in the back of my head. But regardless of that, I am super picky about riffs. We just waited until we felt ready, it just happened to be 5 years. There was a pandemic which was a distraction during that time so, maybe something went there too? I don't know.
I'm an old fan of yours, I enjoyed listening to your 2017 demo "Promo" and I like that you have your own style while maintaining your own signature sound. How did the idea to start a band in 2017 come about and why did you decide to play death metal? I feel a strong influence of old American bands in your music. Were they an inspiration for you?
I had songs written that were intended for Maveth’s next album, but I wanted to bring in fresh energy and see where they could go with someone else’s imprint. I contacted Cruciatus immediately — we already knew each other through a mutual acquaintance, we both had bands on the Dark Descent Records roster, and had a strong bond in terms of music and vision. He injected his style into my material, and it felt like everything I had always wanted Maveth to sound like, but hadn’t quite achieved.
As for why death metal — that was inevitable. From the moment I heard Altars of Madness, I knew this was the music I was meant to create. And I was always more drawn to the darker, more obscure side of death metal — bands like Morbid Angel, Incantation, Immolation, Demilich, and Gorguts. That influence still lives in Proscription.
If I understand correctly, PROSCRIPTION is a kind of successor to MAVETH? The band has a number of great musicians. How did you actually get together? How did you get together with the current lineup, and was it difficult to find musicians who wanted to play death metal at such a level? For example, in the Czech Republic, not that many people play extreme metal.
Yes, essentially Proscription rose from the ashes of Maveth. When that band ended, I reached out to Cruciatus, who I had known for about 15 years. He was interested, and we began shaping the first songs. M.K. joined soon after — he’s the cousin of Matti Mäkelä (Corpsessed), and once I saw a video of him playing, it was obvious he was the right fit. Apep came into the fold shortly after as bassist, and once I realized he lived near M.K., it was perfect since they could travel together for rehearsals in Kuopio which is 4 hours drive from where they lived.
At first Apep was only going to play bass, but in the studio I asked if he could handle some vocals. He had experience as a backing vocalist before, so we tried it, and the dual-vocal approach worked really well — his black/thrash energy is a great counterpoint to my death metal roots.
Recently we had a change: Cruciatus decided to step down, and our longtime friend and producer Kalle Laanto (Sonic Violence Studios) joined us. He was actually one of the first people I considered when forming Proscription, so it feels like things came full circle.
Let's move on to the new album. Do you know what I like most about it? The atmosphere. Yes, the album is very dark, brutal, but sophisticated, and the mood changes throughout. Sometimes rawness comes to the surface, sometimes coldness, sometimes rotten blood. Can you tell us how PROSCRIPTION composes new material? Who writes the songs?
Up to this point, I write 95% of the riffs. I just sit and write all the time. I throw away far more riffs than I keep, as I’m sure many others do. Once I get a few riffs that start to feel like they have a relationship, I start recording and arranging a rough concept. Then I send them to M.K. and he will do several demos with alternate beats to see what the riff needs or wants to become. He has been doing some arrangements on the new material we’re working on now, and I can’t even say what a huge weight off my shoulders that has become! When I’m the only riff machine, THAT would be my biggest barrier. I start to feel like I’m repeating myself, and sometimes throw away sick riffs out of frustration, thinking I’ve written something too similar previously. But then M.K. will make a drastic tempo change, or sick break, or present a drum idea that was nowhere in my mental library which changes the idea completely for the better. This new evolution is extremely exciting to me.
And now, with Kalle in the band, he’s one of the main riff machines in his other projects and already has material for Proscription flowing. I would dare to say the wait for the third album should NOT be five years again. Hahaha.
Sound is very important, not only in death metal. I like how massive and majestic it is on the new album. Dave Otero is responsible for it. How did you work together? Did you ever have different opinions about the sound, did you have a say in the final result? Or did you leave everything up to Dave?
Dave has been my friend for over 25 years. We are old bandmates as well! We played in the Colorado based Dethroned back in the day. So, I already knew his production and ideas on sound. He mixed and mastered the first album as well. First album we told him to use the tones we already had from the studio, and work his magic from there. That guitar tone was already 90% what I wanted to hear, drum tones were all natural, so just add his "special sauce". I mean, all I had to say on bass was "thrash bass" and he already knew what I meant. You know? Same minded in those aspects. So, on the new album we did the same, but let him have liberties in tone we took off the table for the first album. Opinions on that have been "hit or miss" but, when is that not the case? To be honest, we ourselves had a different vision for the guitar tone, but there was no time to change it before the deadline.
Thanks to you, Samuel Araya and Artem Grigoriev have become my favorite cover artists (I love Samuel's work for your previous album). The cover for the new album is very dark and mysterious. It gives me the chills. Can you tell us how you got together with these excellent artists and why you chose these particular motifs? And why is the cover different on the CD and vinyl?
Ah yes........ there IS a story here. So, Artem was contacted back in 2018, to create artwork for Conduit. He said he would need 6 months to do it and we agreed it was perfect timing for our release window. But, the time came and went, and we had to get something together for the cover unless we were to miss that window. And, I can't remember who pointed me in Samuel's direction, but I looked through his galleries and the painting we used for the cover was just there, in his personal collection. All 4 band members agreed that it spoke to us so I contacted him to use for the cover art. It was meant to be because it truly IS perfect for that release, and it was complete and ready to go instantly. Then, when I was feeling like this new album is almost ready to hit the studio, I was talking with Naas about lyrics and he was too busy with Akhlys to offer anything new at the time. So, I sat and started working on concepts I had WAY back in the Dethroned days that never were used lyric-wise. When it was done, I remembered another painting from Samuel that told the story of "Desolate Divine" if you interpret it that way, and SAME DAY M.K. said "Hey, what about that other painting from Samuel we were discussing before?". We all agreed on this art I called “Behemoth of Woe” and it had to be the one. Then, we realised Artem's art was just sitting in my inbox collecting virtual dust, and it was too detailed and amazing to not use. it took almost 2 years to get it from him!! But, coincidentally it actually has similarities to the opening tracks on both sides of the vinyl. So.......we decided BOTH needed to be on the album. Samuel for the CD, and Artem for the vinyl. I mean, why not? It satisfied so many things on OUR end.
What are the lyrics on the new album about? Where did you draw your inspiration from? Like you, I enjoy old occult films and books. So, I wonder, do you believe in hell? Do you think it really exists?
I’ve always been drawn to darker, mostly anti-Christian themes. Organized religion has always felt like hypocrisy and mental slavery to me. Over the years, I’ve collaborated with Naas (Nightbringer, Akhlys), who has an immense knowledge of esotericism, the cosmic, and the satanic. Some of his writings became Proscription lyrics when they didn’t have a home in his other projects — that’s one of the reasons why our first album was called Conduit.
For Desolate Divine, I wrote about half the lyrics myself, with Naas guiding me through sources and ideas when I needed it. The themes explore cosmic horror, spiritual decay, and the rejection of false light.
As for hell — I don’t believe in a literal biblical hell. But as a concept, as a state of existence, as a reflection of human madness and suffering — yes, it exists in that sense.
How are things going with PROSCRIPTION concerts? Do you play a lot and often? What about a tour for the new album? Are you planning one? Do you prefer smaller clubs or big festivals?
Live shows are the main reason I do this. Albums are important, but they exist to bring people to the gigs. Until the day I can no longer do it physically, I’ll be on stage.
We’ve had our share of obstacles — especially with the long gap between albums — but with Desolate Divine, we plan to push harder with touring and festivals. Personally, I enjoy both clubs and festivals. Clubs have that intimate, violent energy, while festivals give you the chance to bring the music to a much wider audience. As long as the atmosphere is right, both are vital.
We really have the strong desire to tour for this album. The tour we did in 2024 was originally meant to be for "Desolate Divine" as it was recorded in summer 2024 actually. But, it wasn't possible to get it in hand in time.
I've been listening to death metal since the nineties, and Finland has always been a country where a lot of good bands came from. But what is the situation like now? I follow your scene, write about new bands, try to get interviews, and everyone agrees that it's still very much alive. What is your opinion of your scene? What about labels, fans, promoters? But you also have musicians (Christbutcher) from the US. Can you compare the two scenes in any way?
The Finnish underground is alive and well — there’s a new wave of younger bands playing old-school death metal with real conviction: bands like Azatoth, Malformed, Disguised Malignance, Tramalizer. They’re hungry, they’re touring, they’re working hard, and it’s inspiring to see. And there are always gigs with Corpsessed, Krypts, Gorephilia, Lantern etc. To keep things quality. hahahah
Of course, the scene, globally has its flaws. Too many small labels are pumping out mediocre records, oversaturating things. But at the core, there are still great bands, dedicated fans, and promoters who keep this alive.
As for the US vs. Finland — both have strong undergrounds, but they’re different in spirit. The US scene is vast and diverse, with many regional differences. Finland is smaller, tighter, but very passionate, and it has always produced death metal that feels uniquely cold and dark. American fans are way more energetic and violent, much more pit activity. But, finnish gigs seem to draw more numbers!
How did you get started with extreme music? What was the first band you heard that got you into music? And what about your musical beginnings? What instrument did you start with? Who was your role model? And what about your first concert, your first performance on stage? Please reminisce for us.
My first real exposure was hearing Altars of Madness blasting through a friend’s brother’s door in the early ’90s. It stopped me in my tracks. I knocked, fully expecting to get punched, and demanded to know what it was. That day I was introduced to Morbid Angel, Deicide, Death, Obituary, Napalm Death… and there was no going back. Even Slayer lost its hold on me after that. Death metal was my calling.
My first concert real was in 1992. Malevolent Creation, Cannibal Corpse, Agnostic Front, and Obituary at The Gothic Theater in Denver. That was fucking amazing. First time I ever heard Malevolent Creation, and they were supporting the Retribution album. Cannibal Corpse had recorded Tomb of the Mutilated but it wasn't released yet and they played most of the album if I remember correctly. I was only 14! Ah, that's another scene difference between Finland and the U.S., 99.9% gigs in Finland are 18+, which is a shame.
As a musician, I was drawn to bass guitar! I had friends who were disgusting guitar players but I wanted to play bass. I wanted to be Cliff Burton, or later Alex Webster! There was an old hippy living downstairs from my family in the same apartment complex. My mother heard him playing bass sometimes and went to ask him if he had any interest in teaching. He thought she was going there to complain about the noise!! AND, when she said “my son wants to learn to play” He was like “No kids WANT to play bass, you probably misunderstood.” but she mentioned I worshipped Cliff so, he said “Send him to me”. He taught me a few riffs and licks. Then showed me how to read tablature on a few evenings, and out the door I went on my own from there. Over the years, one thing or another always forced my into the guitar role, so I accepted my fate. I consider myself a mediocre guitar player at best, especially after playing next to Cruciatus, and now Kalle! I am sub-par at best.
My first performance: Cursed Divinity at Cafe Euphrates in Denver. Maybe 1998? 97? There was no stage but once I stepped "on stage" and felt that energy, I knew this was something I’d never walk away from.
I'm an old dog who still remembers copying cassettes and exchanging them. Writing letters to bands. Those were beautiful times, we were young. You are much younger than me, but I can't help asking... do you remember how PROSCRIPTION started? Most bands in our country were formed in pubs. Can you walk us through the history of your band?
I believe the band formation was covered in question 3?
But, I seem to be much older than you think! At the time of typing this, I am 48 years old and in the scene since 1990 or so! We had no internet then so, tape trading was essential in the parking lot before gigs! We did a lot of VHS trading as well. I got introduced to so many new bands that were on copilation mix tapes, and gig videotapes! I have 1 VHS tape with me doing vocals for Cryptopsy on 2 songs even hahaha. Mike DiSalvo had a throat infection, and Jason from Divine Empire (and Malevolent Creation) literally threw me onstage since they were performing with no vocalist due to MANY shitty circumstances on that tour.
My first band was called Cursed Divinity in 1997 or so. Then I joined Excommunion in late 1999. I did a good handful of guestspots or session spots throughout. I moved to Finland in 2007, where I formed Maveth. Lots more sessions or guestspots. And now, Proscription.
How would you define death metal? What does music mean to you? Is it a lifestyle, a hobby, relaxation? I'm still fascinated by darkness, I'm drawn to the energy. How about you?
Death metal is power, darkness, madness, and truth through sound. For me it’s empowerment, belonging, and freedom — musically and emotionally. Outside the love of my wife and child, it’s the deepest passion I hold. At the same time, am I a hobbyist? I mean, I could never make a living with my music it seems. So I am not pro. But I spend all my freetime writing music, playing gigs, listening to music. I don’t do sports or any crafting or whatnot. Just death metal. Nothing gives me the same feeling in any way.
The classic question to end with. What does PROSCRIPTION have planned for the coming months? If you have anything on your mind that you would like to say to fans, labels, promoters, here's your chance.
Now we have only a couple of finnish gigs left this year, and a possible fest in Poland, though the polish organizers have gone full radio silence, so who knows where that sits. A festival in Germany next spring but, we would love to turn that fest into a stop along a tour of course!
We are demoing new material this autumn as well to see where we stand, and moving forward towards the 3rd album hopefully before too long!
I'm already looking forward to putting my headphones on again tomorrow morning and blasting "Desolate Divine" into my head. The album turned out great. Thank you for the interview, I really appreciate it. I wish you success with the band, full concerts, and good album sales. All the best in your personal life as well! PROSCRIPTION RULES!
Thanks to you man!! We always say “Thanks for the support” so much that it feels like a simple passing by “whats up”. But, it’s true! We need to support, we need the promotion! All we can get!! So again, from the soul, Thanks for the support!!
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